Comments on: Warning: Did Aweber turn into PayPal? http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes ... And Why Should You Care ? Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:11:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Imran http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-296281 Imran Fri, 27 May 2011 04:58:36 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-296281 350,000 subscribers gone overnight. 5 accounts terminated. Aweber are on a mass seek and termination mission with anyone/everyone that has anything related to IM/Bizop... regardless of what Tom comes here to say in public. It makes sense for them to clean up their network and keep the other smaller "non-risky" businesses using their service rather than risking their 'deliverability and complaints with ISP's' as many have now said. I'm making sure everyone knows about this. News has already spread amongst the top tier marketers and is being passed on to others at great speed all over the internet. Pass it on. Aweber will soon know how disrespectful it is to have an account terminated after 5 years of service without any courtesy notices whatsoever. 350,000 subscribers gone overnight. 5 accounts terminated.

Aweber are on a mass seek and termination mission with anyone/everyone that has anything related to IM/Bizop… regardless of what Tom comes here to say in public.

It makes sense for them to clean up their network and keep the other smaller “non-risky” businesses using their service rather than risking their ‘deliverability and complaints with ISP’s’ as many have now said.

I’m making sure everyone knows about this.

News has already spread amongst the top tier marketers and is being passed on to others at great speed all over the internet. Pass it on.

Aweber will soon know how disrespectful it is to have an account terminated after 5 years of service without any courtesy notices whatsoever.

]]> By: SocialNetGeek http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-270720 SocialNetGeek Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:58:17 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-270720 Aweber is alright, but there are lots of other options available to people who need to build lists. WP has some plugins that help you build your own lists, and also email them (depends on how big you want to go). The emails are sent through your own server so you don't have to worry about accounts being closed for dumb reasons. It also has built-in email capture forms also.... Aweber is alright, but there are lots of other options available to people who need to build lists. WP has some plugins that help you build your own lists, and also email them (depends on how big you want to go). The emails are sent through your own server so you don’t have to worry about accounts being closed for dumb reasons. It also has built-in email capture forms also….

]]> By: Najee http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-248071 Najee Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:07:19 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-248071 That is so true about Google. They are behaving like the early years of eBay. Sent me an email with the subject 'Final Notice'. This was the first time they emailed and it's the Final Notice. In this email they allege our Ad does not conform and included a long list of what the reason could be. I went over our Ad and could not find anything wrong. So I emailed the all Almighty asking for an explanation. Two weeks have passed and no reply. In the meantime, they sent me a survey asking me to rate the quality of service provided by the government of Google. What can I say? On AutoResponders, I use GetResponse and so far they have been good. Let's hope they don't start behaving like Aweber. I wish these people understood the effort required in building these mailing lists. If we are in some way out of compliance, work with us to get in compliance. Good Luck guys - the road to financial freedom is not easy but we aren't quitters either so move forward despite these people / governments. That is so true about Google. They are behaving like the early years of eBay. Sent me an email with the subject ‘Final Notice’. This was the first time they emailed and it’s the Final Notice.

In this email they allege our Ad does not conform and included a long list of what the reason could be. I went over our Ad and could not find anything wrong. So I emailed the all Almighty asking for an explanation. Two weeks have passed and no reply.

In the meantime, they sent me a survey asking me to rate the quality of service provided by the government of Google.

What can I say?

On AutoResponders, I use GetResponse and so far they have been good. Let’s hope they don’t start behaving like Aweber.

I wish these people understood the effort required in building these mailing lists. If we are in some way out of compliance, work with us to get in compliance.

Good Luck guys – the road to financial freedom is not easy but we aren’t quitters either so move forward despite these people / governments.

]]> By: Matt Whelan http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-248041 Matt Whelan Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:28:42 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-248041 The answer to the Aweber CEO's "why would we do that unless we were absolutely positively sure that our terms of service were being broken?" is "because you can, you big bullies". Work with the customer to resolve the issue, don't come down with the heavy-handed "we own you, we cancel you". These people are pathetic – “we’re big and tough, we won’t bother letting you solve the problem, we’ll just shut you down”. Google-style arrogance – and as with Google, we should be voting with our feet and taking our business elsewhere. And making as much noise about it as possible to stop customer sign-ups - this is the third example I've seen of the Google-style heavy handedness in a few weeks. Funny to see this from the company responsible for mountains of SPAM all over the net because they let themselves get hacked and their customers’ lists get downloaded. These days I won’t sign up to an Aweber-hosted list without creating a new throwaway email address for it. And I'll certainly never use their service. Frank, thanks for taking the time to post the full story! Regards, Matt The answer to the Aweber CEO’s “why would we do that unless we were absolutely positively sure
that our terms of service were being broken?” is “because you can, you big bullies”. Work with the customer to resolve the issue, don’t come down with the heavy-handed “we own you, we cancel you”.

These people are pathetic – “we’re big and tough, we won’t bother letting you solve the problem, we’ll just shut you down”. Google-style arrogance – and as with Google, we should be voting with our feet and taking our business elsewhere.

And making as much noise about it as possible to stop customer sign-ups – this is the third example I’ve seen of the Google-style heavy handedness in a few weeks.

Funny to see this from the company responsible for mountains of SPAM all over the net because they let themselves get hacked and their customers’ lists get downloaded.

These days I won’t sign up to an Aweber-hosted list without creating a new throwaway email address for it.

And I’ll certainly never use their service.

Frank, thanks for taking the time to post the full story!

Regards,

Matt

]]> By: Robin Grayson http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-246153 Robin Grayson Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:45:20 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-246153 Thanks Frank for sharing & keeping your post available. I am thankful I ran across your post. I just signup for the trial a few days ago. I am going to cancel immediately. Thanks again, rg Thanks Frank for sharing & keeping your post available. I am thankful I ran across your post. I just signup for the trial a few days ago. I am going to cancel immediately. Thanks again, rg

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]]> By: Jon Olson http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-244012 Jon Olson Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:32:19 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-244012 So sad but I'm here to say I was another victim of aWeber. They basically told me my business wasn't wanted about a year ago. I made the switch and haven't looked back. I dunno, I kind of like being with an autoresponder company that actually appreciates all the business I send their way. So sad but I’m here to say I was another victim of aWeber.

They basically told me my business wasn’t wanted about a year ago. I made the switch and haven’t looked back.

I dunno, I kind of like being with an autoresponder company that actually appreciates all the business I send their way.

]]> By: martin http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-243662 martin Sun, 04 Jul 2010 19:59:05 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-243662 granny, go make a sweater or something, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, don*t use the internet - it*s dangerous in your hands - quote *one inside my computer [which nobody uses but me]* look for the one inside your head. with an old woman like freda you can find yourself hunted down by police, army and termites with no reason. granny maybe somebody from your own family used your credit card to buy something on the internet from your computer granny, go make a sweater or something, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, don*t use the internet – it*s dangerous in your hands – quote *one inside my computer [which nobody uses but me]* look for the one inside your head. with an old woman like freda you can find yourself hunted down by police, army and termites with no reason. granny maybe somebody from your own family used your credit card to buy something on the internet from your computer

]]> By: Freda http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-243426 Freda Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:32:21 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-243426 I have had the same, only different, situation with Paypal. Sometime around the first of June they let somebody charge $197.00 to my debit card. I called PP immediately when I noticed on my bank statement 7/10. All they would say the computer that took the order had my IP # attached to it. [I had googled the url that was charged the money was a company based in India with 2 Indian men as CEOs. The outcome with PP? I was told when I asked what was the IP # used in the transaction they told me I would have to have a subpoena [from a lawyer] before the IP # was released to me. They were wrong. My lawyer told me a subpoena had to come from a judge. The reason I need the IP # is that I have 2 - one inside my computer [which nobody uses but me] and one outside on the wireless connection which 2 are 1 digit apart. Anybody could have found my IP # off my computer because I found it and I am not technical at all. I have had the same, only different, situation with Paypal. Sometime around the first of June they let somebody charge $197.00 to my debit card.
I called PP immediately when I noticed on my bank
statement 7/10. All they would say the computer that took the order had my IP # attached to it. [I had googled the url that was charged the money was a company based in India with 2 Indian men as CEOs.
The outcome with PP? I was told when I asked what
was the IP # used in the transaction they told
me I would have to have a subpoena [from a lawyer]
before the IP # was released to me. They were wrong. My lawyer told me a subpoena had to come from a judge. The reason I need the IP # is that I have 2 – one inside my computer [which nobody uses but me] and one outside on the wireless connection which 2 are 1 digit apart. Anybody could have found my IP # off my computer because I found it and I am not technical at all.

]]> By: Ken Harthun http://frankbauer.name/avoid-aweber-mistakes/comment-page-1#comment-241803 Ken Harthun Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:54:57 +0000 http://frankbauer.name/?p=610#comment-241803 Great post, Frank. My list isn't big enough to generate much noise, but thanks to you, Guido, and Rodger Hyatt's #Ad-Swap# room, my eyes are now open. I was getting ready to set up a membership site integrated with Aweber, but now I think I'll hold off. I may just use my own AR solution. And I'll certainly backup my AR on a regular basis, just in case I run afoul of the AR overlords. Anyway, thanks for the in-depth analysis and keep up the good work. Cheers! Ken Harthun The Internet Marketing Geek Great post, Frank. My list isn’t big enough to generate much noise, but thanks to you, Guido, and Rodger Hyatt’s #Ad-Swap# room, my eyes are now open. I was getting ready to set up a membership site integrated with Aweber, but now I think I’ll hold off. I may just use my own AR solution.

And I’ll certainly backup my AR on a regular basis, just in case I run afoul of the AR overlords.

Anyway, thanks for the in-depth analysis and keep up the good work.

Cheers!
Ken Harthun
The Internet Marketing Geek

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